tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post2027096754069969341..comments2023-04-13T21:51:49.258+05:30Comments on common non sense: हंगामा है क्यों बरपा.......!sudhakar jadhavhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07859812871372056117noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-16195196510859374772014-05-18T17:12:30.206+05:302014-05-18T17:12:30.206+05:30Alcohols (ethyl and methyl) are most used industri...Alcohols (ethyl and methyl) are most used industrial solvents and are also being used as fuel. The article keeps on talking about DARU, which is likely to be a very small component of ethyl alcohol production once its use as petrol substitute takes off. Producing alcohols from cellulosic and non cellulosic, lignin containing agricultural and industrial feeds will be common. ultimately as Rajeev Basargekar has pointed out,"...industry (and India) survies and prospers with raw material at minimum price and finished goods at maximum price." Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15170557579118688993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-81993018027904140692010-08-05T23:19:02.535+05:302010-08-05T23:19:02.535+05:30dear shri SUDHAKAR JADHAV,as a doctor i would defi...dear shri SUDHAKAR JADHAV,as a doctor i would definately discourage alcohol at addiction level but studies says that alcohol in minimal quantity of 30ml./day is good for heart anyway but the main point of discussion n dispute is about its production from EDIBLE grains.as u have rightly said JWAR N BAJRA are sparingly cultivated n eaten by vidarbhian farmers the only CASH crop is COTTON(WHITE GOLD)so it is theoratically justified to produce it from NON EDIBLE GRAINS but NOT to consume ALCOHOL for health sakeUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00941122248158281065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-49146812147137841112010-07-30T16:44:59.414+05:302010-07-30T16:44:59.414+05:30शरद जोशी म्हणतात:
बंग समूह, राज्याने ...शरद जोशी म्हणतात:<br /> बंग समूह, राज्याने या प्रकल्पाला अनुदान देऊ नये, हा एक प्रासंगिक मुद्दा मांडतोय. नरडे प्रभृतींचा राज्याच्या हस्तक्षेपाला असलेला विरोध हा मूलतः तथाकथित आवश्यक सामाजिक सुधारणांसाठी आहे, ज्यांच्या कडे शेती हिताच्या विरोधाभासात बघितले जातेय. दारू उत्पादकाला अनुदाना ऐवजी, जे एकूणच हानिकारक आहे, मुल भांडवल मिळणार असेल तर ज्वारी चा उपयोग दारू बनविण्यासाठी म्हणून करण्याविरुद्ध कोणताही तर्क असू शकत नाही.sudhakar jadhavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07859812871372056117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-42131952482885847182010-07-27T20:47:05.093+05:302010-07-27T20:47:05.093+05:30The one relevant point the Bung gang makes is that...The one relevant point the Bung gang makes is that the project should not be subsidised by the State. The Narde side is essentially opposing State intervention for a supposedly desirable social reform that has been seen to be contrary to Farm interests. There can be no argument against using millets as brew stock if the brewers get venture capital rather than subsidies which are all, per se, pernicious. <br />- Sharad JoshiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607698007932180853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-57891387714924899332010-07-27T12:50:05.008+05:302010-07-27T12:50:05.008+05:30comments by rajeev basargekar:
Read your article,...comments by rajeev basargekar:<br /><br />Read your article, it is nice. <br /> <br />I do not want to go in morality of alcohol consumption. Opinions will vary, geographical and climatic compulsions will make the case different in different situations. That is case will be different for adivasis living in Satpuda region who eat bhakaris made from Mahua flowers and also drink liquor made from them.<br /> <br />I do not know what is the present consumption level of Jawar and Bajra, vis-à-vis production of these. <br />In some areas of the country, at one time, climatically agriculture of only Jawar / Bajra was possible, and production was in excess to consumption. This was leading to lower prices. Prices of White Jawar are good - (not remunerative if all aspects of costing such as depreciation / replineshment of land fertility costs are considered, but probably as remunerative as wheat). Price of hybrid Jawar are low, production climatically compulsory in some parts, and nobody wants to eat bhakri prepared form hybrid jawar, unless compulsory. (probably goes more as animal feed and bhakris for prisoners in jail)<br /> <br />I do not know if presently hybrid jawar is produced in excess of demand. Any sustainable industry requires sustainable supply of raw material. If Jawar ? Bajra is in excess and is available as industrial raw material then only any industry is possible. We know from observing Madhavrao Khanderao More’s effort of making wine / champagne from grapes that when precooling technology came, exporting of grapes fetched more money, winery had to be stopped. (Now also, I think, it is running as contract for somebody, when variety of grapes not good for eating directly and having lower production cost have become available for making wine)<br /> <br />Moreover industry (and India) survies and prospers with raw material at minimum price and finished goods at maximum price. Those who will be putting money will calculate all that and also take into account excise duty by government. By today’s scenario liquor made from molasses (Kakvi) from sugar industry (contains carbon added for making sugar white and still contains 45 % non-crystallizable sugar which can be fermented to alcohol) will always be a cheaper raw material for making liquor.<br /> <br />Those (including our friend Ajit Narade) who think that farmers will get benefitted from making liquor from Jawa/Bajra should declsre at what price they want to buy. One can talk with Hemant Borawake, who has planted grapes for wines, about situation of payment to grape growers by wine makers.<br /> <br />Point is before thinking of morality of drinking, <br />1. One should check whether the food grain proposed to be used for making liquor is presently used for eating<br />2. Whether farmers are likely to get anything out of it.<br /> <br />Anyway discussion should go on. (Charcha Jhali pahije !!)<br /> <br />Dr. Rajeev Basargekar<br />Reliance Technology Group - Polymers<br />RIL, Chembur, Mumbai 400 071<br />Ph (D) 022 67677337<br />Ph (M) 9322596646sudhakar jadhavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07859812871372056117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-85865443002179384342010-07-27T07:35:35.418+05:302010-07-27T07:35:35.418+05:30Shri Jadhav is well known for LOGIC! He has put up...Shri Jadhav is well known for LOGIC! He has put up an impeccable case to ponder over. <br /><br />Wine production has also been a great business in Africa, Cape Wines are famous. It is also knwon that wine (in limited quantities) is good for health. Many of Ayurvedic medicines contain an in-situ produced alcohol. <br /><br />Alcohol-free society is possible through proper education of the wealthy youngsters, who are the major consumers of drinks today. May be future will be bright!Sanjay Waghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220892296544204620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-86730369542146033652010-07-25T22:26:25.822+05:302010-07-25T22:26:25.822+05:30Mudde Raast aanee Bintod aahet.
Jwari aanee baajre...Mudde Raast aanee Bintod aahet.<br />Jwari aanee baajree AnnDhaanya Naslayaamule Prastaavit daaru vishayee 'AnnaDhannyaa Paasun Tayaar Honaari Daaru' ase na Mhantaa Keval DHANNYAA Pasun Tayaar Honaaree Mhatle paahije.<br />Yaa Lekhaat Ek Muddaa Raahun Gelaay. Sarkaarne DARU utpaadanaache Licene Va TyaaVar Anudaan Dyaave kaa? Yaa Vishayee Lekhaat BHASHY Yaaylaa Have hote. Abhay Bang Va Nardechyaa Naadaat te raahun gele ase Vaatate.<br /> Ekandarit Lekh Uttam aahe. Karan Sadetol aahe. Tark Sangat aahe. Santulit aanee Sayami aahe.AMAR HABIB, किसानपुत्र आंदोलनhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01872212533999477902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7620293786726360785.post-47234350353462224372010-07-25T21:33:49.051+05:302010-07-25T21:33:49.051+05:30आपण पूर्णपणे तर्कसंगत विचार करून लिहिता याबद्दल कौ...आपण पूर्णपणे तर्कसंगत विचार करून लिहिता याबद्दल कौतुक वाटते.आपल्या संदर्भासाठी एक मुद्दा सुचवते. वाग्भटाचार्यांचा ग्रंत मिळवून त्यातील मद्याविषयीचा भाग कधीतरी अवश्य वाचा. आयुर्वेदात मद्य हे अन्नापासून, धान्यापासून बनवलेले असले आणि ते योग्य प्रमाणात सेवन केले तर ते श्रेयस्कर आहे असा स्पष्ट उल्लेख आहे. वाट्टेल त्या गोष्टींची कुसवणे घालून गाळलेले मद्य केवळ दुःख विसरण्यासाठी, आयुष्याची परवड विसरण्यासाठी गरीब लोक पितात, त्याने त्यांचा दुहेरी तोटा होतो.Mugdha Karnikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407338537241002730noreply@blogger.com